Game Mechanics
 
admin
16/12/2023 at 18:34
Atlético Clube Goianiense    
I'm thinking of what I would change if I was creating a new version of this game.  I don't think I'll have time to do anything for a while, but would like some input.  I have a few thoughts to begin with:
1) once you are in the top flight, its too easy to make money without having to think about it.
2) too many high ability players are being generated.  this has resulted in lower division clubs being able to pick up young top club rejects for nothing and unrealistically increasing the level of the lower leagues.
3) the non-player clubs redevelop their stadia too early and it means by the time a couple of seasons had generated, new people might join the game and be bemused by teams having much bigger capacity stadiums than in real life.

What would you change in a new version of this game?



Kamelkaze
16/12/2023 at 23:10
Servette FC   Charleroi   Monaco
Edited on 16/12/2023 23:10:38

About 1)
Yes it is. From my side, i don´t know where to spend all the money:
Capital 1,031,398,965
Capital 564,712,844
Capital 1,283,601,841
Way less money and more budgetplanning would be nice. 
About 2)
I think the high ability players are fine at the moment. My only problem is, that the guy who thrown the most money will get always the player.  But the youthteams are not really worth at the moment. 
About 3) 
probably it makes sense to rebuild the staduim to a lower size or selling their stadiums and getting smaller ones instead.   


And i would like to have a skill for the players or a team skill "self confidence" that raises and lowers for every win and loss and having an affect on the overall team rating, which could give a reset if you hire a new manager for example. 



admin
16/12/2023 at 23:58
Atlético Clube Goianiense    
good ideas @kamalkaze, especially the last point which is kind of a team confidence/morale trait we see often in real life


OwnGoal
18/12/2023 at 12:53
KRC Gent   Manchester Utd   Deportivo Alavés
theres an insane amount of top division caliber players getting generated at clubs. my youth side probably has 18 800+ players in it which is completely unrealistic. irl a youth team at top clubs will maybe have 5 players who go on to be professionals and of those 5 maybe 1 who is good enough to stay at the club. its way too easy right now to get an 800 rated squad for free.

need a cap on how many scouts you can have as it will make players have to chose carefully on what assignments they pick.





Zapper
18/12/2023 at 22:03
RC Mechelen   Racing Club de France   FC Carl Zeiss Jena
1. At the end of every season: pay a tax on the mo,ney available!
2. The youth academy must every season (or 2-3) lower one point.
3. The training facility's must lower one point every saeon (or 2-3)
4. The age limit of 24 years must be replacd by the experience of the playerss and teamtactics



Kamelkaze
19/12/2023 at 00:35
Servette FC   Charleroi   Monaco
OwnGoal said
theres an insane amount of top division caliber players getting generated at clubs. my youth side probably has 18 800+ players in it which is completely unrealistic. irl a youth team at top clubs will maybe have 5 players who go on to be professionals and of those 5 maybe 1 who is good enough to stay at the club. its way too easy right now to get an 800 rated squad for free.

need a cap on how many scouts you can have as it will make players have to chose carefully on what assignments they pick.



I get at most 5 players with 800+. 90% of the players are up to 800. 

if you have lots more of those players, than admin should check for bugs. 




OwnGoal
19/12/2023 at 12:06
KRC Gent   Manchester Utd   Deportivo Alavés
Kamelkaze said
OwnGoal said
theres an insane amount of top division caliber players getting generated at clubs. my youth side probably has 18 800+ players in it which is completely unrealistic. irl a youth team at top clubs will maybe have 5 players who go on to be professionals and of those 5 maybe 1 who is good enough to stay at the club. its way too easy right now to get an 800 rated squad for free.

need a cap on how many scouts you can have as it will make players have to chose carefully on what assignments they pick.



I get at most 5 players with 800+. 90% of the players are up to 800. 

if you have lots more of those players, than admin should check for bugs. 


even up to 800 is too high. avg squad in belgium pro division is 785. div 2 in germany is 755.  the average player coming through a youth system should be around 700 tops. with a 5% roll of them being above 800. that 5% should be diminished if you sign release x amount of players on a yearly cycle



admin
26/12/2023 at 14:55
Atlético Clube Goianiense    
How would people feel about making the overall stat less visible or even removed altogether?

It's not used in any calcs, but is just an average of key stats for the players primary position. I think we generally put too much emphasis on overall instead of individual stats required for a playing style 



admin
26/12/2023 at 17:31
Atlético Clube Goianiense    
Next version will make it far more difficult to get clubs up the divisions. I think a lot of players managed to guide their clubs to the top flights in consecutive seasons which should still be possible but not as easy.

There needs to be a wage cap based on the the clubs expected income each season.

More focus on what football players want - e.g. want to join a club to win trophies if its not happening at their current club.  There should be a more effective chemistry attribute which impacts the players relationship with the coaching staff - clash of personalities etc

i could have a separate "loyalty points" type tally which players can use alongside capital to buy a better club, so there will still be progression even if you can't get your lower league club to the top.



Kamelkaze
27/12/2023 at 11:04
Servette FC   Charleroi   Monaco
Scouting should be less useful. Getting potential and overall of the players should be way less accurate.


Zapper
27/12/2023 at 16:29
RC Mechelen   Racing Club de France   FC Carl Zeiss Jena
A page with all the players and their attributes would be helpful!


admin
27/12/2023 at 18:01
Atlético Clube Goianiense    
Zapper said
A page with all the players and their attributes would be helpful!
Do you mean like the squad page but showing individual attributes instead of the general info it has now?



Zapper
27/12/2023 at 19:54
RC Mechelen   Racing Club de France   FC Carl Zeiss Jena
admin said
Zapper said
A page with all the players and their attributes would be helpful!
Do you mean like the squad page but showing individual attributes instead of the general info it has now?
Yes. That is what I mean!



Kamelkaze
28/12/2023 at 01:28
Servette FC   Charleroi   Monaco
Good Idea!


Zapper
02/02/2024 at 20:37
RC Mechelen   Racing Club de France   FC Carl Zeiss Jena
Zapper said
admin said
Zapper said
A page with all the players and their attributes would be helpful!
Do you mean like the squad page but showing individual attributes instead of the general info it has now?
Yes. That is what I mean!
Is there a chance that this will be reality in the future?



admin
03/02/2024 at 11:47
Atlético Clube Goianiense    
Yes maybe.
Not sure what the screen will look like as there are a lot of attributes, plus goalkeepers have some different attributes 



Zapper
04/02/2024 at 07:11
RC Mechelen   Racing Club de France   FC Carl Zeiss Jena
I understand, but you can make somrthing like the 'search' screen. Then you can choose the attributers you want to see. 
Perhaps with a maximum so that the table won't be to large....




admin
04/02/2024 at 12:19
Atlético Clube Goianiense    
Zapper said
I understand, but you can make somrthing like the 'search' screen. Then you can choose the attributers you want to see. 
Perhaps with a maximum so that the table won't be to large....


do you mean allow you to select min and max attributes in the filter screen?  that would be easier



Zapper
06/02/2024 at 17:28
RC Mechelen   Racing Club de France   FC Carl Zeiss Jena
Edited on 08/02/2024 07:51:02

admin said
Zapper said
I understand, but you can make somrthing like the 'search' screen. Then you can choose the attributers you want to see. 
Perhaps with a maximum so that the table won't be to large....


do you mean allow you to select min and max attributes in the filter screen?  that would be easier
That is one possibility. But also just mark the attribute you want to see (with a maximum of  attributes you can maark, so that the table won't be to large...